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		<title>By: Genevieve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genevieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Derek for your writing, I&#039;m really enjoying what you write and how you write, being quite the rambler myself, I really admire your ability to discuss such a huge topic and keep it so clear and concise.  

This is such an important topic I think. Your post brings up lots of rich and important connections for me and I&#039;m grateful for that.  I grew up as one of 9 kids, in a family with an excessively dominant and violent father, I have four sisters and four brothers! There was a lot of testosterone and a lot of aggression in the family.  My husband and my teenage son (my eldest) have inch by inch brought me in to a place of accepting, trusting and loving their maleness and the huge big male energy, the powerful stuff that can achieve anything, but was so intimidating to me as a child growing up, because I didn&#039;t have the positive modelling of it.  

I&#039;ve been with my husband 15 years, 15 amazing years, lots of tough stuff with us both bringing our unresolved childhood issues forward.  I thought I&#039;d sorted all that out before I met him, but hmmm not quite ha!!!  My oldest child is a boy, he&#039;s now a teenager and my journey of mothering him has been a journey of learning a new model of interacting with the male (sounds so something but you know what I mean - the male energy).   From the day my boy was born, I could just see and hear and feel what he needed me to be.  I felt empowered and committed to this newer healthier model of male female relating and have overall managed to accept him and be with him in all his hugely vibrant maleness.  It&#039;s been a journey that&#039;s required me to be really really conscious of all this stuff, I knew I couldn&#039;t just go on autopilot and ignore my own triggers. 

He and my husband are definitely very manly men but both also incredibly affectionate.  They&#039;re both males who have a really good balance. Today my son will no doubt walk in from school and give me the hugest smile and look me in the eye and say &quot;I looove YOU mum!&quot; and give me a big bear hug.  When his little sister gets hurt during their rough and tumble, I hear her cry and can feel pretty confident that the next thing I hear is &quot;oh Ayesha, did you get hurt, aaah, big hug&quot;, although if it&#039;s a tiff, he&#039;ll be angry they&#039;ll both be angry but he manages to still express it non-violently, really healthy communication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Derek for your writing, I&#8217;m really enjoying what you write and how you write, being quite the rambler myself, I really admire your ability to discuss such a huge topic and keep it so clear and concise.  </p>
<p>This is such an important topic I think. Your post brings up lots of rich and important connections for me and I&#8217;m grateful for that.  I grew up as one of 9 kids, in a family with an excessively dominant and violent father, I have four sisters and four brothers! There was a lot of testosterone and a lot of aggression in the family.  My husband and my teenage son (my eldest) have inch by inch brought me in to a place of accepting, trusting and loving their maleness and the huge big male energy, the powerful stuff that can achieve anything, but was so intimidating to me as a child growing up, because I didn&#8217;t have the positive modelling of it.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been with my husband 15 years, 15 amazing years, lots of tough stuff with us both bringing our unresolved childhood issues forward.  I thought I&#8217;d sorted all that out before I met him, but hmmm not quite ha!!!  My oldest child is a boy, he&#8217;s now a teenager and my journey of mothering him has been a journey of learning a new model of interacting with the male (sounds so something but you know what I mean &#8211; the male energy).   From the day my boy was born, I could just see and hear and feel what he needed me to be.  I felt empowered and committed to this newer healthier model of male female relating and have overall managed to accept him and be with him in all his hugely vibrant maleness.  It&#8217;s been a journey that&#8217;s required me to be really really conscious of all this stuff, I knew I couldn&#8217;t just go on autopilot and ignore my own triggers. </p>
<p>He and my husband are definitely very manly men but both also incredibly affectionate.  They&#8217;re both males who have a really good balance. Today my son will no doubt walk in from school and give me the hugest smile and look me in the eye and say &#8220;I looove YOU mum!&#8221; and give me a big bear hug.  When his little sister gets hurt during their rough and tumble, I hear her cry and can feel pretty confident that the next thing I hear is &#8220;oh Ayesha, did you get hurt, aaah, big hug&#8221;, although if it&#8217;s a tiff, he&#8217;ll be angry they&#8217;ll both be angry but he manages to still express it non-violently, really healthy communication.</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One of the stereotypes of men is that we are our jobs. We over-identify with our work, and our self-worth depends on how fulfilling it is, either financially or emotionally. And if we are indeed ‘hunting’, and we’re always bringing home the smallest of the catches, barely enough to go around, then it’s got to affect how we see ourselves. Is it possible to instill some different values in our young men, such as the idea that we aren’t what we earn, and we aren’t the things we own, and that it’s important for a man to figure out what he’s really ‘born’ to do, not just follow along?&quot;
^ this really resonates with me. Thought I&#039;d share. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One of the stereotypes of men is that we are our jobs. We over-identify with our work, and our self-worth depends on how fulfilling it is, either financially or emotionally. And if we are indeed ‘hunting’, and we’re always bringing home the smallest of the catches, barely enough to go around, then it’s got to affect how we see ourselves. Is it possible to instill some different values in our young men, such as the idea that we aren’t what we earn, and we aren’t the things we own, and that it’s important for a man to figure out what he’s really ‘born’ to do, not just follow along?&#8221;<br />
^ this really resonates with me. Thought I&#8217;d share. <img src='http://naturalpapa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I know that hormonal and biological differences do make men and women predisposed to certain activities or personality traits, I don&#039;t know why we should be expected to just go along with them.  For instance, I know women are biologically programmed to seek a reliable, safe mate for the long-term, but to cheat with a man who looks like he has good genes when she&#039;s ovulating.  Should I nurture that proclivity in my daughters?  I don&#039;t think so.

I think that as rational, thinking beings, we have both the ability and a responsibility to teach our children that the gender roles of our ancestors were a matter of necessity and survival, but that we are free to explore our identity without any reference to what sort of genitalia we have.

I am reminded of the fact that gender and sexuality are not binary.  It&#039;s a spectrum.  So I think attempting to engender any sort of &quot;manliness&quot; can only hurt male children, because more likely than not, they won&#039;t fit into any designated gender role we imagine the primal human needed to fit into in order to survive, and they will feel rejected and confused if we try to tell them they should be something other than what they feel they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I know that hormonal and biological differences do make men and women predisposed to certain activities or personality traits, I don&#8217;t know why we should be expected to just go along with them.  For instance, I know women are biologically programmed to seek a reliable, safe mate for the long-term, but to cheat with a man who looks like he has good genes when she&#8217;s ovulating.  Should I nurture that proclivity in my daughters?  I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>I think that as rational, thinking beings, we have both the ability and a responsibility to teach our children that the gender roles of our ancestors were a matter of necessity and survival, but that we are free to explore our identity without any reference to what sort of genitalia we have.</p>
<p>I am reminded of the fact that gender and sexuality are not binary.  It&#8217;s a spectrum.  So I think attempting to engender any sort of &#8220;manliness&#8221; can only hurt male children, because more likely than not, they won&#8217;t fit into any designated gender role we imagine the primal human needed to fit into in order to survive, and they will feel rejected and confused if we try to tell them they should be something other than what they feel they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Markham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Alison.  

The common ground is indeed the place for great relationships to flourish - great point. I certainly don&#039;t want a little mini-me (which I sometimes encourage by doing the things I want to do, rather than what they want to do). We need to let them be different from us, and that&#039;s difficult sometimes. I sometimes joke that our kids are going to turn out how we least expect it, and may &#039;rebel&#039; against us, the people who vowed to be the best parents ever... After all, we certainly turned out differently than our parents expected.

It has been interesting to connect with so many other dads recently about this and other fatherhood questions - men are either exploring their masculinity for themselves, or their son is coming of age and they wish to give them the best possible guidance. I hadn&#039;t really considered writing about it here on Natural Papa when I began, but after a couple of posts that were well received, I see a need for more men to talk about it, and think it&#039;s a natural fit here.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Alison.  </p>
<p>The common ground is indeed the place for great relationships to flourish &#8211; great point. I certainly don&#8217;t want a little mini-me (which I sometimes encourage by doing the things I want to do, rather than what they want to do). We need to let them be different from us, and that&#8217;s difficult sometimes. I sometimes joke that our kids are going to turn out how we least expect it, and may &#8216;rebel&#8217; against us, the people who vowed to be the best parents ever&#8230; After all, we certainly turned out differently than our parents expected.</p>
<p>It has been interesting to connect with so many other dads recently about this and other fatherhood questions &#8211; men are either exploring their masculinity for themselves, or their son is coming of age and they wish to give them the best possible guidance. I hadn&#8217;t really considered writing about it here on Natural Papa when I began, but after a couple of posts that were well received, I see a need for more men to talk about it, and think it&#8217;s a natural fit here.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Kerr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison Kerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 01:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek, I applaud you for tackling this kind of topic.

One thing I&#039;ve observed is that a boy and his dad don&#039;t necessarily share interests, but if the dad works to find a common ground, a hobby or activity they can do together, that can be a  wonderful thing for their relationship. Something active is best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek, I applaud you for tackling this kind of topic.</p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;ve observed is that a boy and his dad don&#8217;t necessarily share interests, but if the dad works to find a common ground, a hobby or activity they can do together, that can be a  wonderful thing for their relationship. Something active is best!</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Markham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thought about video games - it certainly seems to fit, and I&#039;m in agreement with you on the idea of outdoor experiences being a way to use some of that &#039;inborn&#039; code. I was a Boy Scout, and I took a lot from those experiences that still serve me. Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thought about video games &#8211; it certainly seems to fit, and I&#8217;m in agreement with you on the idea of outdoor experiences being a way to use some of that &#8216;inborn&#8217; code. I was a Boy Scout, and I took a lot from those experiences that still serve me. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Granny Pants</title>
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		<dc:creator>Granny Pants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful post and discussion. After working with hundreds of children of all ages, I have come to the realization that the genetic code of &quot;the hunter&quot; in boys from ages 8-12 has been strategically capitalized on with video games. These games satisfy a portion of the primal urges that young boys used to need to learn to hunt without compassion getting in the way. 
Now, however, the need is not there in most of the world, though the genetic urge still is. 

Unfortunately, video games are counter-productive for many reasons that I am sure you all agree with. They train our children to kill, to be desensitized to violence, and to lie dormant the physical needs that these games do not satisfy.

Learning a healthy respect for nature and life through outdoor experiences and building survival skills is a wonderful way to exercise some of that genetic code. Physical activity combined with outdoor skills and even competitive sports can satisfy the needs of young boys today. Outdoor activity compared to video games, reduces aggressive tendencies and behavioral challenges because children need to be much more physical than they are today; at least 2 more hours of physical activity is needed for our children these days to balance their physical, emotional, and behavioral needs.

In the future, even though the WII has smitten some parents and educators into believing this is enough, hopefully our young boys will have parents that are more knowlegable about their needs to be outdoors and to channel some of these Super Hero qualities into daily life, which can also become nurturing in the care of younger siblings, animals, gardening, building, exploring, cooking, etc.. There is nothing wrong with recognizing the strength in each respective gender without isolating the other. 

As fathers today become caregivers, this is a beautiful evolution, however the physical needs of the child still remain and boys have more need to be physical than girls to utilize their testosterone appropriately. I love that a gentler father is emerging in our culture. To merge this gentler father with the natural world seems to be a win-win for all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful post and discussion. After working with hundreds of children of all ages, I have come to the realization that the genetic code of &#8220;the hunter&#8221; in boys from ages 8-12 has been strategically capitalized on with video games. These games satisfy a portion of the primal urges that young boys used to need to learn to hunt without compassion getting in the way.<br />
Now, however, the need is not there in most of the world, though the genetic urge still is. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, video games are counter-productive for many reasons that I am sure you all agree with. They train our children to kill, to be desensitized to violence, and to lie dormant the physical needs that these games do not satisfy.</p>
<p>Learning a healthy respect for nature and life through outdoor experiences and building survival skills is a wonderful way to exercise some of that genetic code. Physical activity combined with outdoor skills and even competitive sports can satisfy the needs of young boys today. Outdoor activity compared to video games, reduces aggressive tendencies and behavioral challenges because children need to be much more physical than they are today; at least 2 more hours of physical activity is needed for our children these days to balance their physical, emotional, and behavioral needs.</p>
<p>In the future, even though the WII has smitten some parents and educators into believing this is enough, hopefully our young boys will have parents that are more knowlegable about their needs to be outdoors and to channel some of these Super Hero qualities into daily life, which can also become nurturing in the care of younger siblings, animals, gardening, building, exploring, cooking, etc.. There is nothing wrong with recognizing the strength in each respective gender without isolating the other. </p>
<p>As fathers today become caregivers, this is a beautiful evolution, however the physical needs of the child still remain and boys have more need to be physical than girls to utilize their testosterone appropriately. I love that a gentler father is emerging in our culture. To merge this gentler father with the natural world seems to be a win-win for all!</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Markham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daryl - Thanks for the link, I&#039;ll check it out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daryl &#8211; Thanks for the link, I&#8217;ll check it out!</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Markham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan - sorry if I made it sound as if women just have babies. That wasn&#039;t my intent - I was merely trying show an obvious feminine biological trait in order to try to find the corresponding masculine ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan &#8211; sorry if I made it sound as if women just have babies. That wasn&#8217;t my intent &#8211; I was merely trying show an obvious feminine biological trait in order to try to find the corresponding masculine ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Daryl Ducharme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daryl Ducharme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a great article in a recent national geographic about a modern hunter gatherer culture called &lt;a href=&quot;http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/12/hadza/finkel-text&quot; title=&quot;National Geographic Article on the Hadza&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Hadza&lt;/a&gt;.  It is a good place to look for what might be hard wired.
.-= Daryl Ducharme´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://ducharme.cc/blue-man-awakening-sacred-masculine/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Blue Man – Awakening my Sacred Masculine&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a great article in a recent national geographic about a modern hunter gatherer culture called <a href="http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/12/hadza/finkel-text" title="National Geographic Article on the Hadza" rel="nofollow">the Hadza</a>.  It is a good place to look for what might be hard wired.<br />
.-= Daryl Ducharme´s last blog ..<a href="http://ducharme.cc/blue-man-awakening-sacred-masculine/" rel="nofollow">The Blue Man – Awakening my Sacred Masculine</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting concepts.  Oddly enough, those traits that are mentioned as hard-wired are also traits that women seek to create within themselves, or at least i do, and so do most of the women I know.  I am a grandmother of 3, have 4 sons and 1 daughter, all adults.

To this day, I don&#039;t know if the differences in them were hard-wired or culturally imposed.  The biggest difference I noticed was when I first opened my daughter&#039;s diaper (my last child) and found all of those folds to clean!  Terrifying.

I strongly disagree with the suggestion that women just have babies.  Although it&#039;s true we don&#039;t actively and consciously grow body parts, we do (or don&#039;t) consciously research what to do for maximum health for ourselves and our children.  Pregnancy was hard work.  Also, it is important to note:  a child is a gift to the man that we love.  Or should be.

I would like to propose this:  the traits that all of you mentioned above are traits that humanity is working to cultivate in order to better society as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting concepts.  Oddly enough, those traits that are mentioned as hard-wired are also traits that women seek to create within themselves, or at least i do, and so do most of the women I know.  I am a grandmother of 3, have 4 sons and 1 daughter, all adults.</p>
<p>To this day, I don&#8217;t know if the differences in them were hard-wired or culturally imposed.  The biggest difference I noticed was when I first opened my daughter&#8217;s diaper (my last child) and found all of those folds to clean!  Terrifying.</p>
<p>I strongly disagree with the suggestion that women just have babies.  Although it&#8217;s true we don&#8217;t actively and consciously grow body parts, we do (or don&#8217;t) consciously research what to do for maximum health for ourselves and our children.  Pregnancy was hard work.  Also, it is important to note:  a child is a gift to the man that we love.  Or should be.</p>
<p>I would like to propose this:  the traits that all of you mentioned above are traits that humanity is working to cultivate in order to better society as a whole.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Markham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny,

So true - those stereotypes of manliness are everywhere in the media and our culture. I&#039;d love to see some alternative messages and images portraying this different idea of manliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny,</p>
<p>So true &#8211; those stereotypes of manliness are everywhere in the media and our culture. I&#8217;d love to see some alternative messages and images portraying this different idea of manliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely agree as well.  Often society pushes us towards stereotypes of &quot;manliness&quot; and loses focus on the big picture of fatherhood.  The constant war between society and our natural impulses has led to many extremes of masculinity, men being superior to women at one end, and masculinity being demonized on the other.

When we&#039;re at peace with our natural roles and familial responsibilities, true &quot;manhood&quot; can come to us allowing us to provide and protect without being overpowering and selfish, and allowing us to nurture and love, without being weak and insecure.
.-= Danny´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://dirtbagdaddiaries.blogspot.com/2010/01/season.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Season&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree as well.  Often society pushes us towards stereotypes of &#8220;manliness&#8221; and loses focus on the big picture of fatherhood.  The constant war between society and our natural impulses has led to many extremes of masculinity, men being superior to women at one end, and masculinity being demonized on the other.</p>
<p>When we&#8217;re at peace with our natural roles and familial responsibilities, true &#8220;manhood&#8221; can come to us allowing us to provide and protect without being overpowering and selfish, and allowing us to nurture and love, without being weak and insecure.<br />
.-= Danny´s last blog ..<a href="http://dirtbagdaddiaries.blogspot.com/2010/01/season.html" rel="nofollow">The Season</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Markham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - Great thoughts. The drive to push on is an important one - I also agree with your point about nurture being hardwired into us, and it&#039;s great to hear another dad say so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; Great thoughts. The drive to push on is an important one &#8211; I also agree with your point about nurture being hardwired into us, and it&#8217;s great to hear another dad say so.</p>
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		<title>By: John Pattok</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Pattok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 03:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe nurture &lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt; hardwired in males. The stoic man began with Zeno, a third century Greek philosopher, and is, I believe, unnatural. My son has always loved &quot;Papa cuddles&quot; (his term). Part of being a &quot;man&quot; is demonstrating by example the importance of affection - for our children, our spouses, and our community. 

I also think endurance and perseverance are part of our hardwired code. A hunter must continue his quest until he is successful, and cannot let a setback derail him, or his clan will not eat. I notice that the most successful men in our society are those who push on, despite adversity.

I agree with you about the importance of gathering and sharing information. It also helps us to learn what constitutes a leader, and helps us define our own role within the community, whether as leader or helper. This teaches cooperative effort, an essential survival trait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe nurture <b>is</b> hardwired in males. The stoic man began with Zeno, a third century Greek philosopher, and is, I believe, unnatural. My son has always loved &#8220;Papa cuddles&#8221; (his term). Part of being a &#8220;man&#8221; is demonstrating by example the importance of affection &#8211; for our children, our spouses, and our community. </p>
<p>I also think endurance and perseverance are part of our hardwired code. A hunter must continue his quest until he is successful, and cannot let a setback derail him, or his clan will not eat. I notice that the most successful men in our society are those who push on, despite adversity.</p>
<p>I agree with you about the importance of gathering and sharing information. It also helps us to learn what constitutes a leader, and helps us define our own role within the community, whether as leader or helper. This teaches cooperative effort, an essential survival trait.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Markham</title>
		<link>http://naturalpapa.com/parenting/fathers-and-sons/turning-little-boys-into-superheroes/#comment-5016</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry - 

It&#039;s hard to write about gender these days without a disclaimer... haha.

Per your last sentence - it&#039;s a beautiful thing to be able to see those qualities in your partner. Kudos to you for expressing it!

Cheers-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry &#8211; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to write about gender these days without a disclaimer&#8230; haha.</p>
<p>Per your last sentence &#8211; it&#8217;s a beautiful thing to be able to see those qualities in your partner. Kudos to you for expressing it!</p>
<p>Cheers-</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I preface my response with the same disclaimer of gender equality that you have in your post.  :)

This is beautiful, and something I&#039;ve been thinking about lately.  We don&#039;t know the sex of our unborn child (and won&#039;t until it enters the world), but we&#039;ve already bought a pink onesie.  Is this a problem?  I, manly me, have a pink shirt.  It&#039;s a color.  And often a good looking one.

I&#039;ve been thinking of the male&#039;s Biological/Primitive/Instinctive/Nature role as protector.  Through this, my wife&#039;s first pregnancy, I find myself to be ridiculously protective.  My responses to sudden noises or movements are more visceral and (compared to my norm), a bit extreme.  I&#039;m the same ol&#039; me, but with slightly more check-yourself-before-you-wreck-yourself.

And if men weren&#039;t the instinctive protector, then why are women so often instinctively attracted to strength?  Provider, to me, is just a means of protection.  Protection from the elements, starvation, and harm.

I love your suggestion of child-giver.  I think I will combine the two.

As a follow-up to the initial disclaimer, I would like to point out that I am very much attracted to my wife&#039;s obvious strength, and she, in turn, is attracted to my nurturing sensitivity.  There is always balance...
.-= Terry´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://paternal.ossumniss.com/?p=83&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The New Age of Privacy&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I preface my response with the same disclaimer of gender equality that you have in your post.  <img src='http://naturalpapa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>This is beautiful, and something I&#8217;ve been thinking about lately.  We don&#8217;t know the sex of our unborn child (and won&#8217;t until it enters the world), but we&#8217;ve already bought a pink onesie.  Is this a problem?  I, manly me, have a pink shirt.  It&#8217;s a color.  And often a good looking one.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking of the male&#8217;s Biological/Primitive/Instinctive/Nature role as protector.  Through this, my wife&#8217;s first pregnancy, I find myself to be ridiculously protective.  My responses to sudden noises or movements are more visceral and (compared to my norm), a bit extreme.  I&#8217;m the same ol&#8217; me, but with slightly more check-yourself-before-you-wreck-yourself.</p>
<p>And if men weren&#8217;t the instinctive protector, then why are women so often instinctively attracted to strength?  Provider, to me, is just a means of protection.  Protection from the elements, starvation, and harm.</p>
<p>I love your suggestion of child-giver.  I think I will combine the two.</p>
<p>As a follow-up to the initial disclaimer, I would like to point out that I am very much attracted to my wife&#8217;s obvious strength, and she, in turn, is attracted to my nurturing sensitivity.  There is always balance&#8230;<br />
.-= Terry´s last blog ..<a href="http://paternal.ossumniss.com/?p=83" rel="nofollow">The New Age of Privacy</a> =-.</p>
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