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		<title>By: Derek Markham</title>
		<link>http://naturalpapa.com/fatherhood/natural-fatherhood-my-credo/#comment-4925</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 00:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marvin - 

I think you hit the nail on the head - men don&#039;t usually get together to talk about it. I&#039;m struggling with how to empower more men (including myself) to do so. Thanks!

Derek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marvin &#8211; </p>
<p>I think you hit the nail on the head &#8211; men don&#8217;t usually get together to talk about it. I&#8217;m struggling with how to empower more men (including myself) to do so. Thanks!</p>
<p>Derek</p>
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		<title>By: Marvin</title>
		<link>http://naturalpapa.com/fatherhood/natural-fatherhood-my-credo/#comment-4920</link>
		<dc:creator>Marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 23:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happy to read about &quot;natural fatherhood&quot; being passionately described in your post. Indeed, fatherhood is not the same as mothering kids. It has its own brand. The thing is, men don&#039;t usually get together to talk about fatherhood unlike women. Perhaps that&#039;s why in the busy world we are in, &quot;natural fatherhood&quot; has not been communicated well among generations of men. Instead, many fathers are stuck with the &quot;macho b.s.&quot; that apply primarily to single men looking for women to impress. I would go as far as saying that fatherhood is the end goal of all that &quot;macho b.s.&quot; that men go through in life. Now that we&#039;re here, it&#039;s time to convey to other men what fatherhood really is. It&#039;s not &quot;macho b.s.&quot; It&#039;s different. It&#039;s not motherhood by men. It&#039;s fatherhood. Whatever that means, let&#039;s discover it by listening to real men who relish fatherhood.
.-= Marvin´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.raisingfilipinoboys.com/2009/11/speaking-love-language-of-receiving.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Speaking the Love Language of Receiving Gifts&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy to read about &#8220;natural fatherhood&#8221; being passionately described in your post. Indeed, fatherhood is not the same as mothering kids. It has its own brand. The thing is, men don&#8217;t usually get together to talk about fatherhood unlike women. Perhaps that&#8217;s why in the busy world we are in, &#8220;natural fatherhood&#8221; has not been communicated well among generations of men. Instead, many fathers are stuck with the &#8220;macho b.s.&#8221; that apply primarily to single men looking for women to impress. I would go as far as saying that fatherhood is the end goal of all that &#8220;macho b.s.&#8221; that men go through in life. Now that we&#8217;re here, it&#8217;s time to convey to other men what fatherhood really is. It&#8217;s not &#8220;macho b.s.&#8221; It&#8217;s different. It&#8217;s not motherhood by men. It&#8217;s fatherhood. Whatever that means, let&#8217;s discover it by listening to real men who relish fatherhood.<br />
.-= Marvin´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.raisingfilipinoboys.com/2009/11/speaking-love-language-of-receiving.html" rel="nofollow">Speaking the Love Language of Receiving Gifts</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Ajay</title>
		<link>http://naturalpapa.com/fatherhood/natural-fatherhood-my-credo/#comment-4781</link>
		<dc:creator>Ajay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really amazing to read this.  I&#039;m not married or a father.  But I&#039;m really impressed by the idea of paternity and I found noone with me.  But now, I discover that I&#039;m not exactly alone.
Thanks a lot.  I really appreciate fathers as they are the visible gods as I&#039;ve studied in our catechism when I was a child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really amazing to read this.  I&#8217;m not married or a father.  But I&#8217;m really impressed by the idea of paternity and I found noone with me.  But now, I discover that I&#8217;m not exactly alone.<br />
Thanks a lot.  I really appreciate fathers as they are the visible gods as I&#8217;ve studied in our catechism when I was a child.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Markham</title>
		<link>http://naturalpapa.com/fatherhood/natural-fatherhood-my-credo/#comment-4570</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justice - 

On point two: You&#039;re absolutely right, and as a father and a man, the most powerful thing we can do is to support our family in whatever way is best for them. Which may be in a hospital... Having also had that experience, I can say that &#039;defending&#039; my family, so to speak, in a hospital was an intense thing to go through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justice &#8211; </p>
<p>On point two: You&#8217;re absolutely right, and as a father and a man, the most powerful thing we can do is to support our family in whatever way is best for them. Which may be in a hospital&#8230; Having also had that experience, I can say that &#8216;defending&#8217; my family, so to speak, in a hospital was an intense thing to go through.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Markham</title>
		<link>http://naturalpapa.com/fatherhood/natural-fatherhood-my-credo/#comment-4569</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer - 

Yes, the homebirth option (especially unassisted) is not for everyone, and is one that I don&#039;t mention often, as many people have experiences that refute my own. I just think homebirth is worthy of being considered - and unassisted birth is something that really needs to be thought through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer &#8211; </p>
<p>Yes, the homebirth option (especially unassisted) is not for everyone, and is one that I don&#8217;t mention often, as many people have experiences that refute my own. I just think homebirth is worthy of being considered &#8211; and unassisted birth is something that really needs to be thought through.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for being a leader and Natural Papa Derek!

Here&#039;s what I can add from my own experience -

1. Co-sleeping only worked to a point for me (us). It mostly became co-waking and co-exhaustion.

2. Some women are simply not able to give birth without medical intervention. I love the idea of natural (even unassisted) birthing, as have both moms I&#039;ve been blessed to father with. Sometimes though, it&#039;s not meant to be. And at those times our women and children need us to show up especially powerfully.
.-= Justice Marshall´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theheroprinciples.com/special-events/121-is-good-men-day/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;12/1 is Good Men Day&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for being a leader and Natural Papa Derek!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I can add from my own experience -</p>
<p>1. Co-sleeping only worked to a point for me (us). It mostly became co-waking and co-exhaustion.</p>
<p>2. Some women are simply not able to give birth without medical intervention. I love the idea of natural (even unassisted) birthing, as have both moms I&#8217;ve been blessed to father with. Sometimes though, it&#8217;s not meant to be. And at those times our women and children need us to show up especially powerfully.<br />
.-= Justice Marshall´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.theheroprinciples.com/special-events/121-is-good-men-day/" rel="nofollow">12/1 is Good Men Day</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your wife and children are very lucky!  Can&#039;t get behind the unassisted homebirth, as both of my homebirths required intervention to save my life once and the baby&#039;s the second time.  You are my superhero!
.-= Jennifer Lance´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/12/16/natural-toy-review-vermont-teddy-bear-go-green-and-woolen-bear/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Natural Toy Review: Vermont Teddy Bear Go Green and Woolen Bear&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your wife and children are very lucky!  Can&#8217;t get behind the unassisted homebirth, as both of my homebirths required intervention to save my life once and the baby&#8217;s the second time.  You are my superhero!<br />
.-= Jennifer Lance´s last blog ..<a href="http://ecochildsplay.com/2009/12/16/natural-toy-review-vermont-teddy-bear-go-green-and-woolen-bear/" rel="nofollow">Natural Toy Review: Vermont Teddy Bear Go Green and Woolen Bear</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Markham</title>
		<link>http://naturalpapa.com/fatherhood/natural-fatherhood-my-credo/#comment-4544</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christine - 

It&#039;s still a lesson I&#039;m learning - to take care of myself. Mothers also need to do that, and trading off with your partner so you each get what you need is a good way to start.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine &#8211; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s still a lesson I&#8217;m learning &#8211; to take care of myself. Mothers also need to do that, and trading off with your partner so you each get what you need is a good way to start.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://naturalpapa.com/fatherhood/natural-fatherhood-my-credo/#comment-4543</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great list, Derek, 

We also believe in co-sleeping, babywearing, unschooling and natural living (less is more, return to nature). I&#039;m glad you added the part about being aware of your personal needs. I think this is especially important to today&#039;s dads who want to be involved fully in family life. Fathers are an integral part of family life and they do things in their own unique way. It&#039;s good to embrace these traits and understand how they work in tandem with mothering.
.-= Christine´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greenparentchicago.com/2009/12/last-minute-gift-idea-buy-a-recycled-bike-and-help-chicago-youth.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Last Minute Gift Idea: Buy a Recycled Bike and Help Chicago Youth&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great list, Derek, </p>
<p>We also believe in co-sleeping, babywearing, unschooling and natural living (less is more, return to nature). I&#8217;m glad you added the part about being aware of your personal needs. I think this is especially important to today&#8217;s dads who want to be involved fully in family life. Fathers are an integral part of family life and they do things in their own unique way. It&#8217;s good to embrace these traits and understand how they work in tandem with mothering.<br />
.-= Christine´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.greenparentchicago.com/2009/12/last-minute-gift-idea-buy-a-recycled-bike-and-help-chicago-youth.html" rel="nofollow">Last Minute Gift Idea: Buy a Recycled Bike and Help Chicago Youth</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Markham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Markham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Chris.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I *almost* totally agree. I have a stepdaughter and my first on the way, and your articles are awesome.

The main thing is, of course, to do what feels right. I wouldnt do a homebirth because I dont feel either my wife or myself have the coping ability to deal with it. On the other hand, growing our own food is something I totally agree with and want to constantly push on people :)

Remind me at the end of the month to swap links with you when I get my blog set up on the new domain... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I *almost* totally agree. I have a stepdaughter and my first on the way, and your articles are awesome.</p>
<p>The main thing is, of course, to do what feels right. I wouldnt do a homebirth because I dont feel either my wife or myself have the coping ability to deal with it. On the other hand, growing our own food is something I totally agree with and want to constantly push on people <img src='http://naturalpapa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Remind me at the end of the month to swap links with you when I get my blog set up on the new domain&#8230; <img src='http://naturalpapa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris Byrne @byrnegreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Byrne @byrnegreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post Papa D!

I can almost entirely agree with everything you wrote. 

My 2 amendments: 1) Homebirth, yes. Unassisted (which I read as no midwife in attendance) seems like turning away from a community opportunity. There is a place for assistance, and I don&#039;t think birth is the place to go it alone. The midwife serves the village, call on her. Leave the DIY/Extreme challenges where they belong. 

2) infant potty training works when you&#039;re always outside or in another traditional setting, but if it is the modern &quot;read the cues and get the child to the potty&quot; interpretation, I&#039;ve seen a kid who that caused anxiety in into his 3rd year and actually regressed. Very hard to do in a way that doesn&#039;t make the child overly self conscious of the act, IMHO. 

But again, minor points. Thanks for so clearly articulating my approach as a Papa!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post Papa D!</p>
<p>I can almost entirely agree with everything you wrote. </p>
<p>My 2 amendments: 1) Homebirth, yes. Unassisted (which I read as no midwife in attendance) seems like turning away from a community opportunity. There is a place for assistance, and I don&#8217;t think birth is the place to go it alone. The midwife serves the village, call on her. Leave the DIY/Extreme challenges where they belong. </p>
<p>2) infant potty training works when you&#8217;re always outside or in another traditional setting, but if it is the modern &#8220;read the cues and get the child to the potty&#8221; interpretation, I&#8217;ve seen a kid who that caused anxiety in into his 3rd year and actually regressed. Very hard to do in a way that doesn&#8217;t make the child overly self conscious of the act, IMHO. </p>
<p>But again, minor points. Thanks for so clearly articulating my approach as a Papa!</p>
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		<title>By: Shanyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shanyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish more men would embrace this method of parenting... Be present in your child&#039;s life &amp; they will be more likely to be present in yours down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish more men would embrace this method of parenting&#8230; Be present in your child&#8217;s life &amp; they will be more likely to be present in yours down the road.</p>
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